i dont even know how to start this. let me just say that elliott yamin is one of my favorite singers and that i honestly enjoyed his show tonight at the norva. during "little ghetto boy" he even pointed to me. i was so excited. after the show, i stood outside by the bus. i waited, i waited and i waited. most of the time when i come to the norva, i dont wait around to meet anyone, but i really honestly wanted to meet elliott, because he's such a big inspiration to me. so i stood with this nice woman who's daughter went to school with elliott. we chatted for awhile and then finally elliott came outside. i was so excited screaming "elliott!". the woman and her friend were first to run up to elliott and talked about their experiences or whatever. they talked and talked with him. i really just wanted to say a quick hello, or get a quick picture. after he finished talking to her, i figured he would at least acknowledge me, or say hi or ANYTHING. but he didnt. i tried and tried to ask for a quick picture or autograph, but elliott gave me the smallest glance and just got on his bus. i understand that he may have been tired, or may have wanted to visit with his friends or family..but i can honestly say that ive NEVER felt this disappointed. i always hear about people wanting to meet their favorite star and being disappointed. i never thought that it would happen to me, and never thought it would be my favorite singer; elliott yamin who would be disappointing me. the whole car ride back to newport news, i just couldnt say anything. it just put a damper on my night. i wish i could forget it, but i probably never will. elliott yamin still is my favorite singer, but i will probably never feel the same way about his music again. in the future, i hope to become a big star, and with the way i feel right now about tonight, i vow to myself to NEVER blow off any of my fans, i dont care how tired i am, and i dont care the circumstances.

I am so sorry you were disappointed. It's unfortunate you didn't meet up with any of the Etrainers in Norfolk. I'm sure you would have met Elliott if you had been in the Etrain group. I can say Elliott always goes out of his way to make himself available to his fans.

Kevin, don't give up, for what ever reason. I remember waiting at 2 american idol concerts, one especially waiting from around noon, never to see Elliott. And I read of so many meets too. I've seen him a few times since, but they are usually quick and I guess I've learned to act quickly myself. Are you going to other concerts? Hang in there, it will happen.

BTW welcome to the etrain.

What a happy life you must have if you've never been so disappointed, ever. I realize it's harder to appreciate the fact that someone is only human when it's yourself that was disappointed, but try to understand just a bit. Unfortunate that you chose such a negative post to be your first on the Train. Hope the next one will be happier. And BTW I know it's none of my business but how old are you?

Quite a first post.

Timing is everything. Not everyone gets to meet him the first time they try. He has a busy schedule and he has a concert in a different state Monday.

I don't mean to offend but I have to say that joining the E-Train just to complain is not a good thing. Maybe if you had joined the E-Train before and been a part of our plans tonight it would have been different. Maybe you didn't know about the E-Train until last night, who knows because all three acts gave the E-Train a shoutout. You know, Elliott made it clear at the end of the show that he wanted to spend time with family and friends that were there from Richmond. He's probably seen some of us at concerts more than he has his family and friends.

Agan, sorry if this offends you but I was offended reading it. So, step back re-evaluate, become active on the E-Train and remember that this man gives more of himself than anyone can ever expect.

I can say from my heart that I have never met a more kind and genuine guy than Elliott. He is a true gift from above, but you must understand he can't drop everything just to meet you. He has a life and family and friends just like you do. I'm sorry if you were disappointed but if that is your major disappointment I pray you never have any serious problems in your life.

I am sorry that you were disappointed. YES! I met Elliott yesterday for the first time and it was my fourth try. I never ever felt like he didn't care about me as a fan- there are just so many of us that it is hard for him to see everyone. As it has been pointed out here he DID say to please understand that he needed some time with his family and friends.

You just have to hang in there and keep trying!

I didn't realize Elliott owed us anything. None of us are forced to be fans or support him. I understand your frustration. He only has so much time and energy.
Not many acts even do these "meet and greets" with fans or it's even more limited to lucky radio winners or fan club registrees. Better luck next time, I guess.

I just want to add that I've been to many concerts in my lifetime and it is HIGHLY unusual to spend any time with artists before or after their performance. The fact that Elliott gives so much of himself is a gift. I don't go to concerts expecting anything more than to be entertained and listen to some good music. Yes, I looked for the bus at the concert I went to, and no one came out, but typical me it was enough excitement to be in such close proximity of him. I can't even describe the thrill of actually being in the same room and hearing him live. Over a week and I'm still on cloud nine.
Maybe what I wish is that you could say something about what it was like to have the chance to actually be there and hear your favorite singer.

Maybe you are really frustrated with that person who took up all of his time ...and talked and talked...knowing that you and other fans were waiting. I do think that was rude. They should have respected you; they knew you were there to see him too.

I hate people who are so clueless or selfish. Like when you are in long lines and some person in front of you just starts chatting with the clerk or asking a ton of questions. Annoying!

The concert is the main event. Meeting the artist is a lucky perk that no one attending should expect to happen. Elliott is probably the nicest guy around but even he couldn't meet with every one of his fans. Plus he was back in his home town for just a short time. I know you are disappointed but let's get real.
Maybe those two fans were friends or relatives? Anyway, one of those things and I say forget it.

now this I can agree with...don't hog all the face time. Say your peace, get a picture, and move along; depending on the size of the crowd assembled, or the M&G.

I do too. When we went in for the M&G last night, I hung back because I had already met him several times. I went and talked to the drummer Glen who I actally had not met yet.

And, besides that Harley, you got your shout out!! :elliottcap:

I can also understand this and also, if you read the forum about all the recaps, the expectations are set really high for meeting him. It seems as if he is so accessible that if you don't get to meet him it is unusual and not the norm.

So I am going to suggest something that might not be a popular consideration and please don't kill me for it.

There are so many people going to repeat concerts and are getting to see him. There are so many others who have not....maybe a little backing off should be considered for those who have not met him and have the opportunity to do so.

There are quite a number of repeat meet and greets here. I can understand where disappointment is coming from.

It is unfortunate that this first post is a negative one and I hope Kevin you do not get discouraged.

I'm a Richmonder, been on the Etrain for a long time but have never had much one on one with Elliott (just one brief handshake at a CD signing). That is my fault, not Elliott's. I wasn't able to go to the pre-show activities at the Norva where I had a feeling he might attend ( which I later found out he did). I thought he might be available afterwards but that was a chance I took. When he announced that many family and friends were there and he wanted to spend time with them after the concert, I was a little disappointed but completely understood and didn't dwell on it. Just being there was wonderful. He gave us his all even though he wasn't feeling well. As others here have said, you need to put things into perspective, be happy about the great effort Elliott put out on the stage, and keep trying. I haven't given up.

You were standing right behind me during the concert. You ARE a great fan. I loved your enthusiasm and admiration towards Elliott. It has taken us many attempts to meet Elliott. Your journey with the E-Train has just begun! I feel assured that you will be blessed with an Elliott hello or signature. Can you make it to the Washington, D.C. concert? I am happy that Elliott was able to reunite with family after quite some time. Unfortunately, it happened on your concert night. Stick with our man! He is truly one of the most generous human beings that I have encountered.

All I can say is I understand the disspointment, especially since you were standing right there. I guess the folk that did meet him actually approached them so he had to respond I'm thinking? One thing that is correct, is that it can take several attempts before getting the chance to meet him. I met him on my fourth attempt. I didn't give up because I know there are so many fans out there and he can't meet everyone everytime. Still, though it doesn't mean you can't feel dissapointed, especially if you know that so many other people get to meet him multiple times with seemingly no effort at all. If you're a true fan, hang in there. Elliott loves to meet his fans and it'll happen one day.

Your level of disappointment is directly correlated to how much you wanted to meet Elliott so I can see you truly love him. The reports now are that he is getting really exhausted--plus battling a long-term cold!--so if I were you, I'd chalk it up to the fact that Elliott was just plain SPENT. And maybe he thought you were just a family member or friend of the people he was talking to and not the huge fan you are... Please forgive....and please feel welcome here! Glad you felt you could drop in and be a fan!

AngELL, that's what I was thinking too. He might not have even known he was a fan standing there waiting for just an autograph, afterall he did speak at length to the mother and daughter who walked up to him.

sometimes you have to make yourself known and be very assertive. That's not the same as being pushy...it's just making sure they know you are there. We all know Elliott doesn't deliberately ignore anyone, and is always rather gracious when approached.

Elliott is the most giving of people you will ever meet...if he did not stop to meet you he probably had a very good reason not to...and even if he didn't have one...so what? He is entitled....he left a good part of himself on that stage last night and that was worth more than the price of the ticket you paid. He doesn't owe his fans anymore than that...but don't take that the wrong way...Elliott truly gives back to his fans...and more...You have not had the chance to see him looking exhausted...meeting with fans, spending time taking pictures, signing autographs, hugging (and in some cases kissing fans!!) don't be too hard on him...or yourself...life is full of disappointments...this one really should not be that high on the Richter Scale!

And let's not be so hard on the fans that MAYBE take up too much time...or have had the chance to meet him more than once...when you are in front of him...time moves so fast it's kind of hard to realize...so much is swirling in your head that your brain is trying to catch up with your mouth! And those that may have met him already are usually trying to to make up for sounding like a blithering idiot the first time by doing better the second time...and failing miserably I might add!!

I too understand being disappointed, maybe especially if you hear so many stories about fans who HAVE had the opportunity to meet Elliott, and some of us were blessed on more than one occasion. If anything though, that should show you JUST how available he is to his fans, and that is certainly not something you can say about probably 95% of today's artists out there. I know you are thankful for the (I have no doubt) amazing show he put on last night, but he is only human hon, and you just have to hang in there and try again. If not, I try to live my life being thankful for all the wonderful experiences I DID have, and not the ones that passed you by, because I feel it was meant to be that way. I am a HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEE fan of Duran Duran, and there are fans there that have met them time and time again, and then there are those of us who have traveled near and far, on more than one occasion with no luck. That is just the luck of the draw and life;) Just go through and read the stories of those wonderful fans like Mike, and Amanda that he went out of his way to see. Maybe then you will step back, take a deep breath, and just say...next time;) xo

okay whoaaa. alot of responses. lol. lets all just remember that i wrote that post last night, i was still upset about it. ive kinda gotten over it. and just to clear things up...i didnt come up here to intentionally be negative. i just really honestly wanted to meet elliott soo bad. i do understand that he said he wanted to spend time with friends and family, and i know he doesnt owe me anything.
but when youre practically face to face with someone you admire, asking for a quick picture or anything..and dont even get a hello, it kinda hurts. and i really was frustrated with the women who got all the face time, because they had actually seen him before..i havent. i just turned 18 years old, so i dont have means of transportation to go to every elliott yamin show like i wish i could, so last night was kinda a big deal to me. i know elliott yamin is a good person and wouldnt do it intentionally. its just...you know?

and lets pretend that wasnt my first post okay? sheesh. lol.

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OK, Kevin, I just saw your last post, so I've edited what I was going to say. I understand that you were disappointed, and I'm sorry you didn't get to meet him. However, in the future, maybe it's not such a good idea to post when you are in the middle of all the emotion; or, if you do, be prepared for a reaction. You can't expect that what you said was going to go over well, and yes, it does make a difference that it was your first post. Anyone who has spent time on the Etrain knows that Elliott is human and he's exhausted, but even so, he tries his absolute hardest to meet everybody. Maybe you didn't realize that. Maybe when you've spent some time here you will come to realize that like we do. :elliottcap:

Hey Kevin i felt the same way you did when i missed E at the Myrtle beach (Nov. 1 ) show. But I already knew the signs weren't good that he was going to come out but I stood around anyway. So maybe it's just human nature to hope something will happen and you'll be noticed.
But I try to put myself in E's place and know he must be pulled in a million directions all the time. I posted something here not too long after that and several folks told me not to be discouraged because it took them several tries.
But I did get to meet Claudette and I am still beaming about that.
She spent a good while chatting with me like we were two moms at a PTA meeting.

What first post...I didn't see any first post!!!

Hey Kevin...as you might have noticed we take Elliott pretty seriously around here!! We all get a bit defensive at times...but as you will come to see it is all in good fun. Welcome and I hope you stick around...this is a really fun place and full of some amazingly interesting people.

Were you the guy who shouted out during Josh's set that you saved a whole bunch of money on your car insurance???

yeah that was me who said that. lol

Kevin, sounds like you'll fit right in here!!! Welcome aboard. We understand your disappointment but we need you to be an Elliott fan, we have lots of requesting to do for One Word to make it as successful as Wait for You. We want to make sure that Elliott is not considered a "one-hit wonder."

Hope you were as floored by his live performance as those of us lucky enough to have been to one of his concerts have been.

I have to agree with mominny above that it shouldn't be that difficult for fans who have seen him before to be a little more polite about "sharing" Elliott and not hogging his time when others are around. At the same time, perhaps they didn't even see Kevin standing there. But it would behoove all of us to be more "cooperatively minded" going into meet-and-greet mode.

And maybe this is unfair, but I do feel like since Kevin is on the younger side, he ought to get a little more deference. The older folks at these concerts know how to be assertive and, like he says, often have more mobility to get to all these concerts to begin with.

Kevin, don't let this sour your hopes! I have a feeling you'll still meet Elliott some day.

just my 2 cents worth here....

All of the people who met Elliott in the private meet and greet were very respectful of his time. I didn't see anyone hogging him. We were blessed with the opportunity of that meeting without asking for it.

Elliott stated after the encore that he loves to meet his fans and he always tries to stay afterwards and do just that, but he had family and friends present who he had not seen in a long time and needed to spend time with them. He announced that right from the stage. Apparently even after he said that, he still stopped and met those few people outside by the bus. The man tries to please everyone, to the point of physical exhaustion.

I believe they drove from Norfolk to Allentown,PA and he did a private LUNCH today. When does he sleep? Can we really ask any more of him?

The first two concerts I attended, I didn't meet Elliott, but was not for one second disapointed in him. I count it a privilege and a blessing, and not something I earn or deserve. I got more than my money's worth just listening to him sing.


kevinfaceeee, I hope that your dream of meeting Elliott is fulfilled. I'm glad you stopped by the etrain. You will love it here. Sorry, we are a little defensive when it comes to Elliott..hahaha. Hope you stick around and post more often :)

Kevin, you are 18 years old? May I make a suggestion to you? Put all that passion you have for Elliott into something that really matters. There is a lot of need in this world. We need to find things that can bring us lasting fulfillment.

it's always hard when our heroes and the people we admire or enjoy disappoint us. But we learn that they are human and no less of our hero or unworthy if our expectations aren't fulfilled.

I was looking at those pics from the eTrain event; there's a lot of love in those pictures; the eyes do not lie to the camera, and they show so much love between the E-Train and Mr. Yamin. How many other entertainers can say they have a fanbase like us? Not very many. Judging from E's expression, and the light of his eyes, we're a mutual admiration society.

Don't bother with listening to people who say to find "something that really matters".
That discounts your feelings and cheapens all of life's enjoyment. Obviously THIS mattered to you. I hope you get to go to another concert, and this time you get to meet Mr. Yamin.

Me too! I enjoyed sharing the concert with you!

...wish we could be a little gentler with all the newbies...including girlygirl...do not want to scare all E's new fans away...

Yikes.

I was 40 years old before I ever got to meet a musician I went to see at a concert. And if I had not been engrained in the Etrain i never would have met Elliott at all. It is one of those things where timing is everything and having been in a fanbase for a long time it ups your chances. No guarantee but it heightens the propensity.

Kevin, you are 18. You are young and you will have many opportunities in your life. Look at it as a concert ticket bought should yield a great concert, and that show by elliott was amazing. When I was your age all the way up to present date at 40 i NEVER once met a celeb. Ever. And never really figured i would.

It was the magic of the Etrain that led most of us to meeting Elliott and for most it didn't happen on the first try.

We hope you enjoy Etrain and realize that Elliott is one of the most amazing fan friendly celebs you will ever see. He gives far more than was ever expected. I have never known any celeb who has given more to his fans than Elliott.

Kev, I figured if you were a teenager I'd forgive you, so I do. I guess you learned your lesson!
Stick around the Train for the happy times. I'm sure if you go to more concerts, you'll eventually meet Elliott. Some of us realize that the closest we'll ever get to seeing him, let alone meeting him, is Youtube.
And here's hoping this episode remains your biggest life disappointment for years to come.

Elliott has probably met more of his fans PERSONALLY than many other performers out there. Most won't give you the time of day. I have a feeling, if the cards play out right, that our newest poster will one day meet Mr. Yamin.