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ohioguy45780 - January 8, 2008 01:17 PM (GMT)
yes, the rumors are true. It's got a bullet on HAC stations.

It won't hurt to request at those HAC stations playing him.


Let the attacks begin.....

itslate - January 8, 2008 02:40 PM (GMT)
Okay, I'm behind the times here... but can you explain what the H in HAC stands for lol. I got that AC is adult contemporary.

when I look up HAC some of what I get is

HAC Haiti Action Committee (Berkeley, CA)
HAC Hansard Association of Canada
HAC Harbor and Approach Chart
HAC Have A Cow
HAC Hazardous Area Classification
HAC Heading Alignment Circle (NASA; space shuttle)
HAC Health Assessment Questionnaire (used to assess quality of life)
HAC Hearing Aid Compatible
HAC Hearing Aid Council

I don't think so :rotfl:

mel0207 - January 8, 2008 02:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (itslate @ Jan 8 2008, 09:40 AM)
Okay, I'm behind the times here... but can you explain what the H in HAC stands for lol. I got that AC is adult contemporary.

when I look up HAC some of what I get is

HAC Haiti Action Committee (Berkeley, CA)
HAC Hansard Association of Canada
HAC Harbor and Approach Chart
HAC Have A Cow
HAC Hazardous Area Classification
HAC Heading Alignment Circle (NASA; space shuttle)
HAC Health Assessment Questionnaire (used to assess quality of life)
HAC Hearing Aid Compatible
HAC Hearing Aid Council

I don't think so :rotfl:

:rotfl: :rotfl:

I think it means "hot" but I'm not sure!

Have A Cow :rotfl:

yellin4yamin - January 8, 2008 02:57 PM (GMT)
I think it is Hot Adult Contemp?

ohioguy45780 - January 8, 2008 03:08 PM (GMT)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG. OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


does Elliott need or deserve fans like this?
please don't PM me again with such crap...ever.





* HAC= Hot Adult Contemporary

Linda4Elliott - January 8, 2008 03:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG. OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


does Elliott need or deserve fans like this?
please don't PM me again with such crap...ever.





* HAC= Hot Adult Contemporary

:no:




Hope and belief are a way of life, imo. In the face of obstacles and uncertainty, you can chose to believe. A person with this attitude is never a looser.

mominny - January 8, 2008 03:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Linda4Elliott @ Jan 8 2008, 11:13 AM)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG.  OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


does Elliott need or deserve fans like this? 
please don't PM me again with such crap...ever.





* HAC= Hot Adult Contemporary

:no:




Hope and belief are a way of life, imo. In the face of obstacles and uncertainty, you can chose to believe. A person with this attitude is never a looser.

Well said!!

I will never give up the ship until someone in authority tells me it is the right thing to do............


You got to believe it can happen. If it does not happen it would not be for lack of trying. I would rather fail at something then not try at all.

ONE WORD! ATTACK!

mel0207 - January 8, 2008 03:44 PM (GMT)
When there is an increase in spins in any format (HAC or other) I think it's okay to post about it to alert people, so thanks OG. I don't think we will read too much into this...it is great there is an increase, so we are glad, and choose to see the good side to this, but we're not going to get overly optimistic. But we are optimistic because we love this song and want to continue to follow it and see what happens. It isn't over yet, I don't think, I mean it's still getting spins. Things could turn around to some degree...what degree that will be (or not be), I don't know, nor do any of us. But we choose to support it 100% in any case.

Edit to add this is NOT meant as an attack on anyone. We are all certainly entitled to our own opinion, and I don't begrudge anyone for speaking their mind respectfully. Bottom line: we all love Elliott, and have his best interests at heart.

wowhesgood - January 8, 2008 03:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jan 8 2008, 03:08 PM)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG. OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


does Elliott need or deserve fans like this?
please don't PM me again with such crap...ever.





* HAC= Hot Adult Contemporary

In my opinion until we get word from Elliott's team to stop supporting OW, I'm in.

itslate - January 8, 2008 03:50 PM (GMT)
I believe that's the key Mel. We just don't know about the record industry, nor do a lot of the music publishers... that's why they lose so much money each year. To be a fan and to give up on this now is just a no no imho.

eta: so what's the difference between AC and HAC?

applesauce - January 8, 2008 04:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (mel0207 @ Jan 8 2008, 09:50 AM)
QUOTE (itslate @ Jan 8 2008, 09:40 AM)
Okay, I'm behind the times here... but can you explain what the H in HAC stands for lol.  I got that AC is adult contemporary.

when I look up HAC some of what I get is

HAC Haiti Action Committee (Berkeley, CA)
HAC Hansard Association of Canada 
HAC Harbor and Approach Chart
HAC Have A Cow
HAC Hazardous Area Classification
HAC Heading Alignment Circle (NASA; space shuttle)
HAC Health Assessment Questionnaire (used to assess quality of life)
HAC Hearing Aid Compatible
HAC Hearing Aid Council

I don't think so  :rotfl:

:rotfl: :rotfl:

I think it means "hot" but I'm not sure!

Have A Cow :rotfl:

Well, I hope it doesn't mean "Hearing Aid Council." ... Some artists might hope *for* that -- but not Elliott.

applesauce - January 8, 2008 04:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG.  OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


I'm skeptical about Hot Adult Contemporary embracing One Word on a large scale, mainly because it sounds like soft, urban-influenced pop while the HAC I'm familiar with sounds kind of rock-oriented, in general.

Nevertheless. even if something is "done" on one format, that doesn't in the least mean it's done on *all* formats. ... Don't the AC formats *usually* pick up songs and artists only after they've already pretty much had their run on pop or rhythmic or whatever? (and not necessarily a great run, either. Things become hits on AC formats that never dented the others...) Seems that way to me, anyway. If they're playing it, then request away, I'd say.

Taratova - January 8, 2008 04:14 PM (GMT)
HAC has 4 spins showing for Elliott for the song ONE WORD with no stations on format..

My strategy is someone different. WFY is burning up on three formats now. Top 40 with 2159 spins, HAC 896 spins, and AC with 1904 spins for the week. WFY is # 5 on Mainstream.I have been sending out requests to LOCAL STATIONS for WFY to TOP 40 stations playing WFY and also with a plug for more music from Elliott in 2008. It may lead to some playing of ONE WORD. Showing love for Elliott and WFY is a plus now and could be the key to more Elliott music down the road.. :awe: :1word:

chloewannabee - January 8, 2008 04:15 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG. OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


does Elliott need or deserve fans like this?
please don't PM me again with such crap...ever.





* HAC= Hot Adult Contemporary

WHAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT??????????????
That's pretty harsh, in my book , unless it came from one of Elliott's "insiders". :think:

applesauce - January 8, 2008 04:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Taratova @ Jan 8 2008, 11:14 AM)
HAC has 4 spins showing for Elliott for the song ONE WORD with no stations on format..

My strategy is someone different. WFY is burning up on three formats now. Top 40 with 2159 spins, HAC 896 spins, and AC with 1904 spins for the week. WFY is # 5 on Mainstream.I have been sending out requests to LOCAL STATIONS for WFY to TOP 40 stations playing WFY and also with a plug for more music from Elliott in 2008. It may lead to some playing of ONE WORD. Showing love for Elliott and WFY is a plus now and could be the key to more Elliott music down the road.. :awe: :1word:

Great suggestion.

wowhesgood - January 8, 2008 04:28 PM (GMT)
Because we are such a dedicated and involved fan base, I'm really beginning to think that we need some direction from Elliott's team. We're at a lull in activity and we don't know what to do with ourselves. None of us want to do anything that would harm Elliott's chances of being played on the radio or getting guest appearances, etc... but we so want to do what we can to help.

So I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm to the point I wish his team would give us some feedback about what we should be doing w/ our Elliott energy and enthusiasm. I don't have any idea if that is kosher or not but it would ease some minds here. I'm afraid the uncertainty and differing opinions will begin to negatively affect the closeness of this board.

Judy - January 8, 2008 04:42 PM (GMT)
ITA, wowhesgood. Last thing we need is bickering on this board during this lull in Elliott news. I think we should just all use good judgment and not irritate any radio stations or tv shows by being over-zealous. General tips about 'What not to do, based on results of bad actions from previous idol's fans', are welcomed by me. Supporting and promoting Elliott in every POSITIVE way should be our goal.

Taratova - January 8, 2008 04:56 PM (GMT)
I have gotten great responses from the Dj's . No harm in requesting Elliott's WFY... they like to get feedback.Bringing the song WFY back into play and getting a request for it is a positive as long as we do not hound one single station all at once.That is spam.. we are not that big of a group.. There ar well over a few hundred stations on each format so I doubt they will be spammed.. it is when everyone jumps on one station that gives a negative vibe.

luvthatelliott - January 8, 2008 05:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG. OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


does Elliott need or deserve fans like this?
please don't PM me again with such crap...ever.





* HAC= Hot Adult Contemporary

I'm very disappointed that someone on this board would send a pm like that... sad and disappointed.

sherwood - January 8, 2008 05:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Taratova @ Jan 8 2008, 11:14 AM)
HAC has 4 spins showing for Elliott for the song ONE WORD with no stations on format..

My strategy is someone different. WFY is burning up on three formats now. Top 40 with 2159 spins, HAC 896 spins, and AC with 1904 spins for the week. WFY is # 5 on Mainstream.I have been sending out requests to LOCAL STATIONS for WFY to TOP 40 stations playing WFY and also with a plug for more music from Elliott in 2008. It may lead to some playing of ONE WORD. Showing love for Elliott and WFY is a plus now and could be the key to more Elliott music down the road.. :awe: :1word:

Exactly the attitude, T!

Sunny - January 8, 2008 05:35 PM (GMT)
My thoughts...if there's a bullet we should be requesting. Just because OW didn't take off in Top 40, doesn't mean that it can't be successful in other formats.

sherwood - January 8, 2008 05:35 PM (GMT)
Hey, what's the diff...you mean regular AC is for the old crotchety ones in rocking chairs...and HAC is for the adult whippersnappers that like their blood boiling?

One good thing...I'll bet any AC is nicer to listen to than the S*** we get on Top 40!!

nanassetta - January 8, 2008 05:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (luvthatelliott @ Jan 8 2008, 12:23 PM)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG.  OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


does Elliott need or deserve fans like this? 
please don't PM me again with such crap...ever.





* HAC= Hot Adult Contemporary

I'm very disappointed that someone on this board would send a pm like that... sad and disappointed.

Me too. I'm sorry that happened to you. :thud:

yellin4yamin - January 8, 2008 05:35 PM (GMT)
I promise it wasn't me!! I will listen to my local HAC stations, and if I hear them playing Elliott, then I will call and let them know how much I love the song/his music and thank them, but I would never ever dream of going overboard when it comes to his singles, and I am quite positive that the vast majority of the train knows when to go forward, and when to hold back, and I am very proud of that!

Oh and Linda yes...look what BELIEVING did for Elliott? Nothing bad can ever come from believing, and positive thinking!

ohioguy45780 - January 8, 2008 05:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (nanassetta @ Jan 8 2008, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (luvthatelliott @ Jan 8 2008, 12:23 PM)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG.  OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


does Elliott need or deserve fans like this? 
please don't PM me again with such crap...ever.





* HAC= Hot Adult Contemporary

I'm very disappointed that someone on this board would send a pm like that... sad and disappointed.

Me too. I'm sorry that happened to you. :thud:

yes, especially since my entire post was meant to be light-hearted and simply positive; I know the realities....no rose-colored glasses here.... but the glass remains half full, and the outlook must always be "onward and upward", regardless.

Benito - January 8, 2008 05:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (nanassetta @ Jan 8 2008, 12:35 PM)
QUOTE (luvthatelliott @ Jan 8 2008, 12:23 PM)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
just got a PM....

"you shouldn't be encouraging this OG.  OW's time is over. Be done with it".

no such thing as false hope, in my book!


does Elliott need or deserve fans like this? 
please don't PM me again with such crap...ever.





* HAC= Hot Adult Contemporary

I'm very disappointed that someone on this board would send a pm like that... sad and disappointed.

Me too. I'm sorry that happened to you. :thud:

Hmmmm, OG, my guess is Mr. Blank!

tulee - January 8, 2008 05:53 PM (GMT)
One of the local station in Atlanta still has OW on its playlist, so I'm continuing to request. Although there's been a recognizable decrease in spins in the last 2 weeks, and they more often go back to WFY, they seem willing to play both songs. I couldn't call over the holidays, but I've gone back to it. Since there's hardly anyone else in my area, I can't believe that I'm doing anything but helping Elliott by requesting. I don't know what the future of the song holds, but if anyone can help to keep his songs on the airwaves, then by all means, keep it up. My experience is that the dj's welcome requests and just like to know that they have listeners.

posttime - January 8, 2008 06:18 PM (GMT)
F Y I - Listening to OW right now on Lite 98 in Richmond (AC station). They played it at least twice during the day yesterday and today.

nanassetta - January 8, 2008 06:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (posttime @ Jan 8 2008, 01:18 PM)
F Y I - Listening to OW right now on Lite 98 in Richmond (AC station). They played it at least twice during the day yesterday and today.

Q94 is playing it too! :rocker:

jamie50 - January 8, 2008 07:00 PM (GMT)
I think OW's best shot is AC. Maybe if they ever stop playing WFY, they'll start playing it.

Hopefully we all won't go nuts during this lull. Too bad VH1 pulled the OW video as that would have kept everyone busy while we waited for whatever comes next.

Anyway, if OW isn't happening, there's nothing wrong is requesting WFY on AC and moving it up the chart there. The main thing is E's album continues to sell consistently.

Maybe we'll get lucky and E's song will be the first single off Randy Jackson's album. :drool:

Sk8888 - January 8, 2008 07:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (nanassetta @ Jan 8 2008, 11:42 AM)
QUOTE (posttime @ Jan 8 2008, 01:18 PM)
F Y I - Listening to OW right now on Lite 98 in Richmond (AC station).  They played it at least twice during the day yesterday and today.

Q94 is playing it too! :rocker:

Dare I say that this is encouraging?

posttime - January 8, 2008 07:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sk8888 @ Jan 8 2008, 02:03 PM)
QUOTE (nanassetta @ Jan 8 2008, 11:42 AM)
QUOTE (posttime @ Jan 8 2008, 01:18 PM)
F Y I - Listening to OW right now on Lite 98 in Richmond (AC station).  They played it at least twice during the day yesterday and today.

Q94 is playing it too! :rocker:

Dare I say that this is encouraging?

I'll go out on a limb and dare you!! :rotfl:

jamie50 - January 8, 2008 07:22 PM (GMT)
Today's AC chart:
5 YAMIN, ELLIOTT Wait For You 1536 1202 334 10.061
169 YAMIN, ELLIOTT One Word 2 0 2 0.042

OW has a bullett. It's a start. :elliottcap:


Judy - January 8, 2008 07:30 PM (GMT)
Darn it, just when I had resigned myself to que sera sera, now I am all optimistic again. But I guess we won't be "Movin' On", Elliott. Instead, we will "Wait For You" cause in "One Word", you are Amazing. ( I hereby apologize for this stupid post, Just trying to distract myself from a problem I have)

applesauce - January 8, 2008 07:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (jamie50 @ Jan 8 2008, 02:22 PM)
Today's AC chart:
5 YAMIN, ELLIOTT Wait For You 1536 1202 334 10.061
169 YAMIN, ELLIOTT One Word 2 0 2 0.042

OW has a bullett. It's a start. :elliottcap:

Well, at least it gives a few more people a place to request OW (...abbreviation seems a little ironic, in light of recent events ... ).

And with WFY playing and thus requestable in a bunch of places, that should keep a fair number of us occupied. Given the hoopla over Top 40, I think we've kind of given AC and HAC short shrift up to now, but that's a format that will probably be big in Elliott's future.

stacia - January 8, 2008 07:41 PM (GMT)
I feel lucky to have heard OW because it is now one of my favorite songs! I really love it no matter how it does anywhere.

I am hoping AC will pick it up...

Sk8888 - January 8, 2008 07:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (jamie50 @ Jan 8 2008, 12:22 PM)
Today's AC chart:
5 YAMIN, ELLIOTT Wait For You 1536 1202 334 10.061
169 YAMIN, ELLIOTT One Word 2 0 2 0.042

OW has a bullett. It's a start. :elliottcap:

Jamie, thank you for getting me to take a look at the AC MediaBase chart.

The 169 ranking of OW with a bullet is interesting because last week it appears that OW wasn't even on the AC charts.

But what I really was late to the party on is WFY being at #5 with a bullet on AC. How can we say we don't have anywhere to channel our energies?

The fact that there is some overlay with WFY while in the Top Ten on AC and introducing OW seems to be part of the AC formula doesn't it? Bring in the second song of an artist while his/her other single is ripping up in the Top 10?

imthesame - January 8, 2008 08:12 PM (GMT)
I just had an interesting (startling) thing happen. Locally I've had really good luck requesting at our Top 40 station (WNCI). They have always been pleasant and have played lots of WFY. They, of course, have still been playing, WFY, even when I request OW, but they are doing a good job of being nice about the whole thing. I live really close to our AC station (WSNY) and I've taken in both of Elliott's CDs and told them to enjoy. I've sent two e-mail requests for WFY since last summer and after receiving a return e-mail for the second one politely telling me to go .... (put in our own words) I haven't done anymore requesting there. In the meantime you tell me that WFY is #5 on AC. As far as I know, they have not played it. I went to Goggle WSNY and Mediabase and the top item that came up was a reference to something called - playclay.com with a bump. I don't think it's about playdough and I think I might as well give up requesting that Elliott be played on Sunny 95. Wow, this is distressing for me - I hope that they realize that I haven't been pestering them about Elliott - this is more stuff to confuse us about what to do to be helpful fans.

Linda4Elliott - January 8, 2008 08:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (imthesame @ Jan 8 2008, 03:12 PM)
I just had an interesting (startling) thing happen.  Locally I've had really good luck requesting at our Top 40 station (WNCI).  They have always been pleasant and have played lots of WFY.  They, of course, have still been playing, WFY, even when I request OW, but they are doing a good job of being nice about the whole thing.  I live really close to our AC station (WSNY) and I've taken in both of Elliott's CDs and told them to enjoy.   I've sent two e-mail requests for WFY since last summer and after receiving a return e-mail for the second one politely telling me to go .... (put in our own words) I haven't done anymore requesting there.  In the meantime you tell me that WFY is #5 on AC.  As far as I know, they have not played it.  I went to Goggle WSNY and Mediabase and the top item that came up was a reference to something called - playclay.com with a bump.  I don't think it's about playdough and I think I might as well give up requesting that Elliott be played on Sunny 95.  Wow, this is distressing for me - I hope that they realize that I haven't been pestering them about Elliott - this is more stuff to confuse us about what to do to be helpful fans.

I just googled exactly what you said, and then clicked on the first link. It's a link to a Clay forum, not WSNY station. I think the Clay forum is trying to get airplay for Clay, as well.

eta: I also looked up the station's (WSNY) 7 day playlist on mediabase and WFY is #24....up from 26 :)

imthesame - January 8, 2008 08:28 PM (GMT)
I'm just wondering if they are getting too much pressure from fans, because the director didn't seem very pleasant and I don't know why they aren't playing Elliott if so many other AC stations are starting to. I'm afraid I came in on the Clay promotion pressure and here I was just supporting yet again another Idol. Should I not worry and request anyway, or should I let it go.




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