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Title: A Poll That Really Counts!
Description: How to get Elliott noticed by the mainst


Yaminiette - June 3, 2006 06:10 PM (GMT)
Voting for elliott in polls that are run by tabloids and AOL is a harmless way to show your support for the soulful AI underdog. Want to get him really noticed?

Marketing firms follow top search engines such as google and yahoo to find trends in the publics intrests. Follow this link to see a comparison of the volume of searches for Elliott and Taylor.
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2C+taylor+hicks

While elliott may be ahead in Moosak and Intouch poles, here is a real life pole where we as elliott fans are failing miserably! A closer analysis of the month of April shows how far lagging we are in this poll that REALLY COUNTS!
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2...all&date=2006-4

What can we do? Go to google. Search for "Elliott Yamin". SPELL IT CORRECTLY! Search like you're voting, because you are! Show the marketing exec's who the real American Idol is!

Suzanne - June 3, 2006 06:14 PM (GMT)
this is a great, great idea. Do it--do it--do it. I couldn't agree more. yahoo searches and google searches are critical.

i just compared Elliott Yamin to other idols, not THE idol, and he's not doing well at all. there are FAR more searches for Chris Daughtry and Katharine Mcphee.

Search every day.

Suzanne - June 3, 2006 06:21 PM (GMT)
I just compared Elliott to many people--existing musicians, even old idols. Outside Richmond VA Elliott does terribly compared to everyone else--More people search for Kevin Covais and Jasmine Trias in NYC than Elliott!

If you live outside Richmond VA, search, search, search on Google and Yahoo for Elliott Yamin.

E-lectricgirl - June 3, 2006 06:22 PM (GMT)
So do we search on google or the google trends website?

Yaminiette - June 3, 2006 06:25 PM (GMT)
WWW.GOOGLE.COM

Check out what they say on YAMINMACHINE>http://yaminmachine.com/

Current News
Fan Alert! Search for 'Elliott Yamin' on all search engines frequently to put him at the Top and give him notice!


daisycrazy - June 3, 2006 06:27 PM (GMT)
Super idea! I have actually searched for E before on google along with other idols and noticed the difference in number of results found :shocked: We gotta keep our Elliott above the rest so people will take notice! I vow to search every day for ELLIOTT YAMIN (and spell his name correctly as you pointed out ;) ) on google and yahoo. Let's keep him at the top! :groupwave:

Yaminiette - June 3, 2006 06:29 PM (GMT)
Hey! I have the internet on my phone, so I'm gonna constantly search for elliott while im on the go too! Geez we are such a dedicated group! :banana:

AgentScully - June 3, 2006 06:31 PM (GMT)
Great idea. I guess googling him somehow escaped me but it makes alot of sense now. Will google him every chance I get. Thanks for the idea! :)

erulesyo - June 3, 2006 06:32 PM (GMT)
Can't we just buy his cd when it comes out? I don't think Elliott would want us to waste all of our time on google.

Yaminiette - June 3, 2006 06:36 PM (GMT)
Well, so many of us are already waisting our time on the other polls, we mind as well focus our energy on this :D

He doesn't have a record deal yet, so it is our duity as his fan base to make the biggest hooplah about him as possible so he can get the fattest deal possible! :woohoo:

Jacqualine - June 3, 2006 06:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:10 PM)
Voting for elliott in polls that are run by tabloids and AOL is a harmless way to show your support for the soulful AI underdog. Want to get him really noticed?

Marketing firms follow top search engines such as google and yahoo to find trends in the publics intrests. Follow this link to see a comparison of the volume of searches for Elliott and Taylor.
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2C+taylor+hicks

While elliott may be ahead in Moosak and Intouch poles, here is a real life pole where we as elliott fans are failing miserably! A closer analysis of the month of April shows how far lagging we are in this poll that REALLY COUNTS!
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2...all&date=2006-4

What can we do? Go to google. Search for "Elliott Yamin". SPELL IT CORRECTLY! Search like you're voting, because you are! Show the marketing exec's who the real American Idol is!

Great idea.


I go to google at least once a day. so I will throw in a few searches a day for E. I normally don't the other polls because I don't see the point but this one seems great.

erulesyo - June 3, 2006 06:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:36 PM)
Well, so many of us are already waisting our time on the other polls, we mind as well focus our energy on this :D

He doesn't have a record deal yet, so it is our duity as his fan base to make the biggest hooplah about him as possible so he can get the fattest deal possible! :woohoo:

he doesn't? I thought he said he was getting into the studio as soon as the tour is over?

mcdull - June 3, 2006 06:38 PM (GMT)
Yaminiette, thanks for starting this thread. :goodpost:

Someone on TWOP did weekly comparison charts during the season for all the idols, and although E led in many AI-related forums, he was always near the bottom of the pack when it came to internet searches.

We need to start moving E up to show researchers there's loads of ppl interested in him.

Yaminiette - June 3, 2006 06:40 PM (GMT)
You don't need a record deal to make the songs, just to sell the records. They're not allowed to sign a deal until september

LucilleBluth - June 3, 2006 06:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:10 PM)
Voting for elliott in polls that are run by tabloids and AOL is a harmless way to show your support for the soulful AI underdog. Want to get him really noticed?

Marketing firms follow top search engines such as google and yahoo to find trends in the publics intrests. Follow this link to see a comparison of the volume of searches for Elliott and Taylor.
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2C+taylor+hicks

While elliott may be ahead in Moosak and Intouch poles, here is a real life pole where we as elliott fans are failing miserably! A closer analysis of the month of April shows how far lagging we are in this poll that REALLY COUNTS!
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2...all&date=2006-4

What can we do? Go to google. Search for "Elliott Yamin". SPELL IT CORRECTLY! Search like you're voting, because you are! Show the marketing exec's who the real American Idol is!

I think if more people actually knew how to spell Elliott (w/ 2 't's) his score would be higher.

I have no idea how to combine the two (Elliot, Elliott) searches to get a more accurate count.


Suzanne - June 3, 2006 06:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (erulesyo @ Jun 3 2006, 01:32 PM)
Can't we just buy his cd when it comes out? I don't think Elliott would want us to waste all of our time on google.

It's not a waste of time. Whatever label he ends up with will decide how much money to put into producing and advertising his CD based on interest in him.

Suzanne - June 3, 2006 07:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (LucilleBluth @ Jun 3 2006, 01:57 PM)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:10 PM)
Voting for elliott in polls that are run by tabloids and AOL is a harmless way to show your support for the soulful AI underdog.  Want to get him really noticed?

Marketing firms follow top search engines such as google and yahoo to find trends in the publics intrests.  Follow this link to see a comparison of the volume of searches for Elliott and Taylor. 
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2C+taylor+hicks

While elliott may be ahead in Moosak and Intouch poles, here is a real life pole where we as elliott fans are failing miserably!  A closer analysis of the month of April shows how far lagging we are in this poll that REALLY COUNTS! 
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2...all&date=2006-4

What can we do?  Go to google.  Search for "Elliott Yamin".  SPELL IT CORRECTLY!  Search like you're voting, because you are!  Show the marketing exec's who the real American Idol is!

I think if more people actually knew how to spell Elliott (w/ 2 't's) his score would be higher.

I have no idea how to combine the two (Elliot, Elliott) searches to get a more accurate count.

I compared based solely on last names. (yamin vs. hicks; yamin vs. daughtry; etc.) He's still doing terribly.

Everytime you log on, do a fast google search. it will take 15 seconds.

LucilleBluth - June 3, 2006 07:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Suzanne @ Jun 3 2006, 02:00 PM)
QUOTE (LucilleBluth @ Jun 3 2006, 01:57 PM)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:10 PM)
Voting for elliott in polls that are run by tabloids and AOL is a harmless way to show your support for the soulful AI underdog.  Want to get him really noticed?

Marketing firms follow top search engines such as google and yahoo to find trends in the publics intrests.  Follow this link to see a comparison of the volume of searches for Elliott and Taylor. 
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2C+taylor+hicks

While elliott may be ahead in Moosak and Intouch poles, here is a real life pole where we as elliott fans are failing miserably!  A closer analysis of the month of April shows how far lagging we are in this poll that REALLY COUNTS! 
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2...all&date=2006-4

What can we do?  Go to google.  Search for "Elliott Yamin".  SPELL IT CORRECTLY!  Search like you're voting, because you are!  Show the marketing exec's who the real American Idol is!

I think if more people actually knew how to spell Elliott (w/ 2 't's) his score would be higher.

I have no idea how to combine the two (Elliot, Elliott) searches to get a more accurate count.

I compared based solely on last names. (yamin vs. hicks; yamin vs. daughtry; etc.) He's still doing terribly.

Everytime you log on, do a fast google search. it will take 15 seconds.

Oh I see. Well, I'm on it...daily now.

:::while I laugh at myself for not knowing how to straight up add two searches together::: :blush:

lauralulu - June 3, 2006 07:05 PM (GMT)
Check it out--more people search for him spelling his name wrong--

http://google.com/trends?q=elliot+yamin%2C...eo=all&date=all


And check out the phillipines--

http://google.com/trends?q=elliot+yamin%2C...eo=all&date=all

kaff - June 3, 2006 07:06 PM (GMT)
Just read on the moosak board that we should search through 50.lycos.com. Said that helped Clay Akien a great deal.

zekbee - June 3, 2006 07:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:10 PM)
Voting for elliott in polls that are run by tabloids and AOL is a harmless way to show your support for the soulful AI underdog. Want to get him really noticed?

Marketing firms follow top search engines such as google and yahoo to find trends in the publics intrests. Follow this link to see a comparison of the volume of searches for Elliott and Taylor.
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2C+taylor+hicks

While elliott may be ahead in Moosak and Intouch poles, here is a real life pole where we as elliott fans are failing miserably! A closer analysis of the month of April shows how far lagging we are in this poll that REALLY COUNTS!
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2...all&date=2006-4

What can we do? Go to google. Search for "Elliott Yamin". SPELL IT CORRECTLY! Search like you're voting, because you are! Show the marketing exec's who the real American Idol is!

Yikes. I checked Google and Elliott is doing terribly in Chicago, where I am ... I will do what I can!

lauralulu - June 3, 2006 07:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (zekbee @ Jun 3 2006, 02:08 PM)
Yikes. I checked Google and Elliott is doing terribly in Chicago, where I am ... I will do what I can!

Check out the link I just posted above showing more people searching for him using "elliot" instead of "elliott"--us Chicagoians & the Richmonders are the only cities shown who search for him more using the correct spelling. :)

bella86 - June 3, 2006 07:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (zekbee @ Jun 3 2006, 02:08 PM)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:10 PM)
Voting for elliott in polls that are run by tabloids and AOL is a harmless way to show your support for the soulful AI underdog.  Want to get him really noticed?

Marketing firms follow top search engines such as google and yahoo to find trends in the publics intrests.  Follow this link to see a comparison of the volume of searches for Elliott and Taylor. 
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2C+taylor+hicks

While elliott may be ahead in Moosak and Intouch poles, here is a real life pole where we as elliott fans are failing miserably!  A closer analysis of the month of April shows how far lagging we are in this poll that REALLY COUNTS! 
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2...all&date=2006-4

What can we do?  Go to google.  Search for "Elliott Yamin".  SPELL IT CORRECTLY!  Search like you're voting, because you are!  Show the marketing exec's who the real American Idol is!

Yikes. I checked Google and Elliott is doing terribly in Chicago, where I am ... I will do what I can!

I think it's all about the location. My search attempts will probably be insignificant seeing that my country is not even listed in those popular regions. I will still make efforts for online polls etc, though.

mayingerzee - June 3, 2006 07:49 PM (GMT)
Okay. I've been traveling a lot with my laptop in tow and i vow to power search for him in every single city I visit. Today Istanbul, next week Rome, week after Hong Kong. Let's make it happen!

doyaminit - June 3, 2006 07:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Suzanne @ Jun 3 2006, 02:14 PM)
this is a great, great idea. Do it--do it--do it. I couldn't agree more. yahoo searches and google searches are critical.

i just compared Elliott Yamin to other idols, not THE idol, and he's not doing well at all. there are FAR more searches for Chris Daughtry and Katharine Mcphee.

Search every day.

You guys are right. We do need to search more often.

I am just wondering if maybe his numbers are down because a lot of us (I know myself especially) don't bother to SEARCH for stuff on him...I just come HERE. I don't necessarily feel the need to google him to find stuff out because I know coming here, or to Yaminions or Yamin Machine, etc, that I will find out what is happening and what the latest E news is.

Just a thought on why numbers might not be where we want them to be....

LOTR Fan 71281 - June 3, 2006 07:59 PM (GMT)
Ok...will do.

bella86 - June 3, 2006 08:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (doyaminit @ Jun 3 2006, 02:52 PM)
QUOTE (Suzanne @ Jun 3 2006, 02:14 PM)
this is a great, great idea.  Do it--do it--do it.  I couldn't agree more.  yahoo searches and google searches are critical.

i just compared Elliott Yamin to other idols, not THE idol, and he's not doing well at all.  there are FAR more searches for Chris Daughtry and Katharine Mcphee. 

Search every day.

You guys are right. We do need to search more often.

I am just wondering if maybe his numbers are down because a lot of us (I know myself especially) don't bother to SEARCH for stuff on him...I just come HERE. I don't necessarily feel the need to google him to find stuff out because I know coming here, or to Yaminions or Yamin Machine, etc, that I will find out what is happening and what the latest E news is.

Just a thought on why numbers might not be where we want them to be....

I think most people just head to the idol boards or Elliott's fansites (like this one) to talk about him or find out updates.

I have some thoughts as to why some of the others are leading the search results but they are just IMO.
Taylor- Winner of AI/search for his previous CDs
Kat- Search for her controversial interviews lol (don't flame me)/her acting(?)career/pics
Chris- his old band/CDs/Fuel offer,etc.
Ace- probably mostly fangirls

As we can see, compared to the others, Elliott doesn't really have a lot of gossip/buzz surrounding his past. He's the guy who can sing and has a touching lifestory. Thus for all updates, sites like yaminions/idf/etrain are sufficient because latest updates are there. And these sites are already known through the grapevine/previous searches which is probably why his name is not searched as often as the others. Hope my post makes sense to someone (I'm really sleepy).

Again,just my 2 cents.

zekbee - June 3, 2006 08:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (lauralulu @ Jun 3 2006, 02:13 PM)
QUOTE (zekbee @ Jun 3 2006, 02:08 PM)
Yikes.  I checked Google and Elliott is doing terribly in Chicago, where I am ... I will do what I can!

Check out the link I just posted above showing more people searching for him using "elliot" instead of "elliott"--us Chicagoians & the Richmonders are the only cities shown who search for him more using the correct spelling. :)

LOL, maybe it's because we're used to living in a state that has a name with double letters and silent letters? :)

erulesyo - June 3, 2006 09:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:40 PM)
You don't need a record deal to make the songs, just to sell the records.  They're not allowed to sign a deal until september

who is going to pay for his studio time? my friend Marshall had to work alot of overtime to pay for studio time.

Yaminiette - June 3, 2006 11:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (erulesyo @ Jun 3 2006, 04:50 PM)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:40 PM)
You don't need a record deal to make the songs, just to sell the records.  They're not allowed to sign a deal until september

who is going to pay for his studio time? my friend Marshall had to work alot of overtime to pay for studio time.

I can speculate that he will either use the money he will recieve from the AI5 tour or he will have signed a contract before he begins recording and the company will pay for his studio time.

itslate - June 3, 2006 11:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Suzanne @ Jun 3 2006, 06:14 PM)
this is a great, great idea. Do it--do it--do it. I couldn't agree more. yahoo searches and google searches are critical.

i just compared Elliott Yamin to other idols, not THE idol, and he's not doing well at all. there are FAR more searches for Chris Daughtry and Katharine Mcphee.

Search every day.

I just did the same

http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2...eo=all&date=all

btw, thanks I was asking for that link in another thread.

GypsyNFla - June 4, 2006 12:07 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Yaminiette @ Jun 3 2006, 01:10 PM)
Voting for elliott in polls that are run by tabloids and AOL is a harmless way to show your support for the soulful AI underdog. Want to get him really noticed?

Marketing firms follow top search engines such as google and yahoo to find trends in the publics intrests. Follow this link to see a comparison of the volume of searches for Elliott and Taylor.
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2C+taylor+hicks

While elliott may be ahead in Moosak and Intouch poles, here is a real life pole where we as elliott fans are failing miserably! A closer analysis of the month of April shows how far lagging we are in this poll that REALLY COUNTS!
http://google.com/trends?q=elliott+yamin%2...all&date=2006-4

What can we do? Go to google. Search for "Elliott Yamin". SPELL IT CORRECTLY! Search like you're voting, because you are! Show the marketing exec's who the real American Idol is!

I google Elliott almost every day, but didn't realiize what a difference it made. :thumbsup:

koko4elliott - June 4, 2006 01:34 AM (GMT)
OK, this is really weird. Last week, I googled Elliott and came upon a Wikipedia entry for him. I don't know who wrote it, but it was quite detailed, as if it was written by a fan. Just now, I googled his name again, went into the Wikipedia entry, and it's MARKED FOR DELETION. I don't understand how Wikipedia works, but the write-up on him is gone, just all this "deletion" stuff.

The odd thing is that I looked up Kevin Covais and Bucky Covington, and both of them have Wikipedia entries because of their appearance on Idol, and they are NOT marked for deletion.

Can anyone figure this out? Why Elliott only? I don't get it.

zekbee - June 4, 2006 01:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (koko4elliott @ Jun 3 2006, 08:34 PM)
OK, this is really weird. Last week, I googled Elliott and came upon a Wikipedia entry for him. I don't know who wrote it, but it was quite detailed, as if it was written by a fan. Just now, I googled his name again, went into the Wikipedia entry, and it's MARKED FOR DELETION. I don't understand how Wikipedia works, but the write-up on him is gone, just all this "deletion" stuff.

The odd thing is that I looked up Kevin Covais and Bucky Covington, and both of them have Wikipedia entries because of their appearance on Idol, and they are NOT marked for deletion.

Can anyone figure this out? Why Elliott only? I don't get it.

Whaaat? Do you mean this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Yamin

I don't see anything about it being marked for deletion on my end. :blink:

trbldbysquirrels - June 4, 2006 01:57 AM (GMT)
OH EM GEE...

just compared e to kat and ....ewwwww!

EDIT: question:: if i just hit the search button over and over does that count or no?

koko4elliott - June 4, 2006 01:58 AM (GMT)
OK, that's really weird. I SWEAR, 1/2 hr ago, that page was not there. It had his name up top, but no picture, no info other than a 1 sentence blurb with his birth date, and it was "marked for deletion". I got the same thing when searching Lycos and Google. Now I see it's back. Very, very strange. There were entries under the deletion topic dated today, so maybe they decided to put it back? I don't know.

Anyway, sorry for the alarm. I see it's back now. :unsure:

mars_mg - June 4, 2006 02:35 AM (GMT)
yeah... does pressing Search over and over help?

and i've been looking for Elliott on Yahoo!Buzz and i haven't seen his name.

chloewannabee - June 4, 2006 02:44 AM (GMT)
GOING TO GOOGLE RIGHT NOW. IT'S 10;45, have you googled today? :hello:

SoulMusicRocks - June 4, 2006 04:46 AM (GMT)
I have done a few searches through Goggle already. I never thought about employing the number of searches from a given search engine as an effective measure of popularity. Hmmmm Go to the search Engines and well...search E-Train! lol

Kimmi - June 4, 2006 04:46 PM (GMT)
This is a great idea! I'll do it right now.




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