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skatingontheroof - June 4, 2006 02:41 AM (GMT)
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player05.htm...n%20Idol&-1&exp

Simon had an interview with Brian Kilmeade and he said that hi liked Elliott but that he thinks he could be forgotten!

Ouch! I don't wan't to believe that. What do other people make of this?

raindance - June 4, 2006 02:48 AM (GMT)
What do I think? I think Elliott's millions of fans will prove Simon WRONG !!!

GypsyNFla - June 4, 2006 02:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (skatingontheroof @ Jun 3 2006, 09:41 PM)
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player05.htm...n%20Idol&-1&exp

Simon had an interview with Brian Kilmeade and he said that hi liked Elliott but that he thinks he could be forgotten!

Ouch! I don't wan't to believe that. What do other people make of this?

I don't believe it for a single minute. Grrrr @ Simon :angry:

skatingontheroof - June 4, 2006 02:56 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I think you may be right on. Actually, I always felt that Simon's comments reflected a bit of jealousy. Maybe he is threatened by Elliott's piercing talent. Cuz in my opinion, Elliott is so talented that he makes the whole AI machine look a little silly.

I don't know if I am making myself clear. Kind of tired of thinking about the ugliness of AI, but truely believe that Elliott is an undeniable talent, and that he outclasses the show. Who cares what Simon thinks. He never really helped Elliott much at all. It was all Paula.

miyagimayday - June 4, 2006 03:01 AM (GMT)
Can Simon come up with anything else ? He really needs to stop saying the same WRONG things over and over .... :poke:

LOTR Fan 71281 - June 4, 2006 03:05 AM (GMT)
Simon's an idiot. He's been wrong all season. He'll be wrong about his stupid comment that he made. :poke:

ohioguy45780 - June 4, 2006 03:22 AM (GMT)
Didn't he say that he "Feared" Elliott would be forgotten? I think he qulaified his words.

Don't fear, Simon...we will NOT let that happen!

Did he see the Billboard charts?

#73 Downloaded track

#101 Nation

#1 Bubbling Under Chart

Poor Kat can't even claim ANY of that.

Rutti - June 4, 2006 03:26 AM (GMT)
Actually this is an old interview - it was done right before the finals. It's interesting that the same comments that he was making about the American Idol show at the beginning of the interview (when he ws trying to get the show off the ground) also apply to Elliott. Go back and listen to it again and you'll see what I mean.

skatingontheroof - June 4, 2006 03:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jun 3 2006, 10:22 PM)
Didn't he say that he "Feared" Elliott would be forgotten? I think he qulaified his words.

Don't fear, Simon...we will NOT let that happen!

Did he see the Billboard charts?

#73 Downloaded track

#101 Nation

#1 Bubbling Under Chart

Poor Kat can't even claim ANY of that.

Yes, he said "feared" or "afraid". thanks for the clarification. do you think it's another one of those manipulation tactics? cuz AI seems to wish he doesn't exist. maybe that's really what this is all about.

i think simon is very calculated in all of his comments.

skatingontheroof - June 4, 2006 03:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rutti @ Jun 3 2006, 10:26 PM)
Actually this is an old interview - it was done right before the finals. It's interesting that the same comments that he was making about the American Idol show at the beginning of the interview (when he ws trying to get the show off the ground) also apply to Elliott. Go back and listen to it again and you'll see what I mean.

ah, yeah! thanks! something like if everyone is against you, you have a hit.

Musebay - June 4, 2006 03:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ohioguy45780 @ Jun 3 2006, 10:22 PM)
Didn't he say that he "Feared" Elliott would be forgotten? I think he qulaified his words.

Don't fear, Simon...we will NOT let that happen!

Did he see the Billboard charts?

#73 Downloaded track

#101 Nation

#1 Bubbling Under Chart

Poor Kat can't even claim ANY of that.

emaniaforever - June 4, 2006 04:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (skatingontheroof @ Jun 3 2006, 09:41 PM)
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player05.htm...n%20Idol&-1&exp

Simon had an interview with Brian Kilmeade and he said that hi liked Elliott but that he thinks he could be forgotten!

Ouch! I don't wan't to believe that. What do other people make of this?

Simon likes to hear himself talk and he likes to think he sounds important so take his words with a grain of salt. He says "could" not would be forgotten so that 's a plus if one really wants to dig out something positive from such a comment......

Elliott can't be or won't be forgotten......his fan base is huge and has gained a lot of followers who are awaiting a song from him, an album full of songs! Yeah Elliott! your fans await your first album with eager anticipation!

SoulMusicRocks - June 4, 2006 05:28 AM (GMT)
I can't comprehend why Simon would say something like that. We E-fans are dedicated and will never forget the incredible soul and music of E. Man, this should make us even more passionate about promoting Elliott.

musicfan2 - June 4, 2006 08:35 AM (GMT)
Why is it that some people with money feel they are entitled to be rude and insensitive to others? I have no respect for Simon Cowell, and I do not value his opinion when it comes to music. Simon and some of his followers are willing to destroy young people just for the sake of ratings and wealth. Katherine has a greater risk of being forgotton than Elliott. People who positively touch our lives remain in our hearts. Elliott Yamin has touched people of various ages, cultural backgrounds and socioeconomic status. Simon Cowell didn't see this coming, and it's obvious that he had no clue as to just how much Elliott was loved and admired when he made the ridiculous statement about being afraid Elliott would be forgotten. Either Simon has a low opinion of the American public or he really believes that most people prefer glitter over substance and can easily be manipulated.

Wardie - June 4, 2006 10:07 AM (GMT)
Simon who?

sugarfree - June 4, 2006 12:29 PM (GMT)
Guys don't be misled. Simon loves Elliott and he just feared he will be forgotten. He prays that doesn't happen, if you try to look deep into the interview, he is not bashing E whatsoever...

san_che - June 4, 2006 12:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sugarfree @ Jun 4 2006, 07:29 AM)
Guys don't be misled. Simon loves Elliott and he just feared he will be forgotten. He prays that doesn't happen, if you try to look deep into the interview, he is not bashing E whatsoever...

I agree with you.

I don't think Simon meant this as an insult at all. I think he really wants to see Elliott succeed but isn't sure how well he will do in the business.

Simon either fails to see how large and dedicated Elliott's fan base is or wants to stir us up so that we make sure Elliott is not forgotten. He's made those "I'm concerned about you", "I fear for you" comments to Elliott all season and every time he did, we worked and voted even harder for Elliott.

The guy didn't make it to number 3 on sheer luck. We know that and Simon has to know that.

Yaminiette - June 4, 2006 01:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (san_che @ Jun 4 2006, 07:42 AM)

I agree with you.

I don't think Simon meant this as an insult at all. I think he really wants to see Elliott succeed but isn't sure how well he will do in the business.

Simon either fails to see how large and dedicated Elliott's fan base is or wants to stir us up so that we make sure Elliott is not forgotten. He's made those "I'm concerned about you", "I fear for you" comments to Elliott all season and every time he did, we worked and voted even harder for Elliott.

The guy didn't make it to number 3 on sheer luck. We know that and Simon has to know that.

That's what Simon is all about! He makes controversial statements to stir the emotions of the viewers...which after reading the responses here, I can say he has succeded! Simon is honest about his perceptions and lets not forget how he has consistently admired Elliott's potential. I think simon is just unsure if he will live up to his full potential. Of course, we know he will and so will the world when he dropps that albumn! :woohoo2:

skatingontheroof - June 4, 2006 01:37 PM (GMT)
well, that is giving Simon the benefit of the doubt. being "unsure" reinforces doubt in viewers minds in my opinion.

now katharine, that is someone simon had to have seen as green, but gave her huge praise and a push forward.

simon's consistent doubting of elliott is, in my opinion, an interference. he really hasn't gone out of his way to help the guy. is is that hard to remark on what an awesome talent he is and what a great contribution he had made to the show? now that is something i would like to see. something positive and motivating would be nice at this point. Simon is being tactical and just endorsing the winners to ensure the steady growth of his bank account. make no mistake.

Paula, where's Paula when we need her, or even a little bit of Randy would do at this point.

itslate - June 4, 2006 01:45 PM (GMT)
I'm not crazy about Simon, and he has been wrong more times than right this season.

He said Elliott needed to be in the finals, and "I've got a horrible feeling he could be forgotten after this".

I have faith, he doesn't fit the mold of the other runner ups, and I think Simon will again be proven wrong, his feelings are incorrect. Actually, Elliott wasn't even forgotten when talking about the 2 in the finals.

I'm not sure Simon has a clue this year on what is happening.

Soccerma - June 4, 2006 01:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wardie @ Jun 4 2006, 10:07 AM)
Simon who?

MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!

musicfan2 - June 4, 2006 03:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sugarfree @ Jun 4 2006, 07:29 AM)
Guys don't be misled.  Simon loves Elliott and he just feared he will be forgotten.  He prays that doesn't happen, if you try to look deep into the interview, he is not bashing E whatsoever...

Sorry but I don't agree with your take on why Simon said what he said about Elliott. It's pretty clear that AI never took Elliott seriously by the way in which he was treated starting with the auditions where you see everyone but Elliott. AI made sure that the contestants with the "great voices" were shown to the American public early on, but where was our Elliott? Simon seemed annoyed that Elliott consistently gave some of the best if not the best performances. His comments were meant to downplay Elliott's performances and lower his confidence. Let's face it, Elliott Yamin was not considered to be "American Idol" material to the decision makers of AI. What I love about Elliott is how graciously he accepted whatever "constructive" criticism that was hurled at him whereas Katherine started complaining to the judges that they were being too hard on her. And Simon Cowell and Randy backed down. Do you think other AI contestants would have received a similar response by the judges? I don't think so.

Another AI contestant was given similar treatment as Elliott. This was none other than Melissa. But check her out on the encore CD where she delivers one of the best songs. I got the impression that Simon had decided that Melissa should not make the top 10, probably because she would have been too much competition for some of the other young ladies,especially the "chosen one". So AI made sure she had an early exit. Poor Melissa couldn't do anything right for Simon and Company, and forgetting some of the words to her song helped seal her fate.


bigEfan - June 4, 2006 04:14 PM (GMT)
After thinking about it and watching past E performances and what Simon had to say about E....I truly believe that Simon does like Elliott and appreciates his awesome voice/talent. I even think Simon along with the other judges wanted Elliott in the finale...which he SHOULD have been. But, a lot of people who didn't follow AI during the season turned in to watch the finale and I'm sure after watching E's performances that night....HE WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN! :woohoo:

skatingontheroof - June 4, 2006 09:31 PM (GMT)
Thanks everyone! It's great to hear everyone's opinions. Simon can say whatever he wants. Doesn't bother me anymore!

ekgcekgc - June 4, 2006 11:38 PM (GMT)
I couldn't pull up the video, but as far as Simon's comments are concerned, I don't agree. As long as we stick to what we say we are going to do (buy his album, email radio stations, etc.) then E will continue to have a fanbase.

Suzanne - June 5, 2006 05:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SoulMusicRocks @ Jun 4 2006, 12:28 AM)
I can't comprehend why Simon would say something like that. We E-fans are dedicated and will never forget the incredible soul and music of E. Man, this should make us even more passionate about promoting Elliott.

He said it because he thinks it to be true. Simon Cowell has no impetus to be negative for no reason.

I have not seen the video, but I will. From your recounts, I think there is good reason to think what he says is right. what is Jasmine Trias doing right now? Or Vonzell Solomon? Or Nikki McKibbin? Kimberly Locke is the only third placer doing pretty okay. The top two get WAY more free advertising--Taylor and Katharine will be on the show next year singing from their CDs--Elliott probably will not. On this show, the difference between two and three is huge. Simon probably thinks Elliott is a great talent, but realistically, hugely popular contestants on the show drop out of sight quite quickly.

I saw a video on Youtube of LaToya London singing acappella at a six flags. See what i mean?

Rittlady - June 5, 2006 09:20 PM (GMT)
Yeh, well, I'll forget Simon LONG before I ever forget Elliott.

I'll forget Elliott, too.........the moment I die.
:marrymeF:

skye_tonga - June 6, 2006 04:30 AM (GMT)
simon's still nursing his ego, because for once america voted for SOMEONE ELSE!




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