Over on the Elliott AI board, we have revived a post started a couple of months ago by a woman in the record industry. It's on the front page now. Anyway, she says word on the street is that 19 and at least one other label, including her own (universal urban) wants to sign E.

I read that post...there's a link to it on here that was posted. she never said she was from Universal Urban. people are just speculating. she did say that "word on the street" is that 19 may still want to sign Elliott.

i hope not. :(

I know since E made the top 3, he's not under the same stringent contract the top 2 are and technically he's only under contract till August. If 19/RCA wants to sign him, does he have the option to say no?

Go back now and read the last three or so pages from that post on E's AI board. She's basically chatting with us right this minute.

That's what I was afraid of - I posted yesterday that since he is now getting this INCREDIBLE amount of attention from the media who had previously dissed the man no end, I was worried that the $ moguls at Ai might start to finally see some marketability in Elliott ( dolts- can they see anything but $$$$!) .

I really don;t want him signing with them so I hope this is one of those rumors that is false - funny , last week we were all worked up about the resutls and now we don't even want him signing with them !

Well, even if he is forced to sign with them , I have faith that he will OUTSELL all their other chosen ones . And even if they TRY to give him crap pop songs to sing , that shining voice can not be watered down - you cannot water down his SOUL!

I asked her if attention to Elliott would hurt (force 19E's hand) or help (draw others) at this point.
she said anyone interested in him has been interested for awhile now, so it shouldn't hurt nor help

I was under the impression that no one could contact E while he was under contract with AI. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Why would anyone from a record company post on the Fox AI board? Not that I doubt he will get a contract, but me I'm always sceptical about what I read.

In an interview, Elliott did say that he had "informal" offers. I don't think he used those exact words, but he clearly left the impression that there were some options to him.

She's been posting off and on for quite awhile...supposedly a new talent scout. Don't know, but has sounded plausible in the past.

I know everyone has been saying that he hasn't gotten a contract with AI... not really sure where that came from (would love a link to this info please).

All I can think of is what Elliott wants for himself, and I believe he wants that AI contract. In his interview with Clive he said something like I hope to get to work with you in the future. He also has said in interviews he will sing "Old McDonald had a farm" if he needed to. Doesn't someone agree with me here?

I remember that woman posting on the AI boards around a month or so ago. She said she was at one of the performances and they wouldn't even let her near Elliott to talk to him. Some people questioned if she was legit, but it sure sounded like she was. She said at the time that her label was very interested in E.

Again, I was in that thread and I'm the one who guessed that EllaG was from Universal Urban and the response was "smart girl". Then a couple of posts later, "very smart girl", like EllaG just couldn't believe I guess it straight out. Truth be told, I'm not thaaat smart. But EllaG's clues were just too good. I used the clues and all of those artists are on UU together. Did EllaG really need to confirm after that? Wouldn't have been smart anyway with the mods lurking around.

If the's same woman I'm thinking of, someone asked her why she was on a message board and she replied that's part of her job, to be on the internet. She really didn't seem to care if people believed her or not. Not sure if I do, but she did sound legit.

Most of the time I believe the old saying, "A bird in hand (19) is better than two in the bush (other possible recording companies). This time I do not feel that. I worry that 19 may not do him justice.

Well, it looks like the thread over at the AI boards went poof.

Yes....it's gone!

sorry, i didn't see the clues she gave as to the label...
i hope she is with Universal Urban, or at least any other reputable label besides RCA. :)

I just know that if Elliott signs with 19/RCA he's going to get SCREWED. (finally, i can say that without getting bleeped) They love to give false promises over there. I'm sure they'll promise Elliott the world, and lead him on, then conveniently 'forget' to give him a music video or other promotion he deserves. He's not on their list of priorities, that's a fact. Hopefully Elliott won't get stars in his eyes and sign with them simply because they were there first. On top of it all - and i'm sure he's looked into this already - he needs to get a good lawyer and a representative/manager separate from 19E before he agrees to anything.

Does he have a choice of not signing if they want him?

Well, I'll believe it when I see it I guess. Any recording company that's going to be interested in signing Elliott will do so as soon as they can, and not wait before casual viewers forget about him (I know, blasphemy right! :o )

I want to know this, too.

If 19 wants him does he HAVE to sign with them????

STOP IT

Do we know if EllaGCracker is even legit? No we don't. Until we actually get official WORD from people on the inside about that sort of thing, it's all speculation. She could just be an overeager intern for all we know, or a psycho making things up. People DO LIE on the internet you know.

That being said 19E does retain the right to hang on to him if they so choose. That's the contract Elliott signed at the start of all this and he must abide by it. What he does need is an entertainment lawyer and STAT. I have a feeling there will be some legal jostling going on and I do agree that there is probably interest in Elliott outside of 19E. He needs a lawyer to sift through the wreckage and find him the best deal out of them all. You know, one that will give him a fair monetary cut of whatever CD sales he does have etc.

And no...if 19E wants him, Elliott HAS NO CHOICE but to sign with them.

Yes...but...I get the distinct impression from AP's posts that she (and therefore Elliott) knows he will be "free" of 19E in 3 months.

What about Chris then? It sounds as though he is weighing out a solo career vs. signing on with Fuel. I thought 19E wanted to work with him as well. So how is it that they are making it seem as though he has a choice? Who is obligated to AI? The Top 12? And I thought that was only until the tour was finished then they were free to make their decisions. Except for the top 2.

Is there a way to PM Ella to give her the adrress for this forum? She can speak more freely here.

Anyone who has ever entered or auditioned for AI is bound to them in some way. They can do whatever they want, basically, that's what the contract says. I know. They came to Hawaii and I had friends audition. Anyway, if they sign Chris, he has to take it. He has no choice. My guess though is that he will turn Fuel down, and 19E will sign Absent Element. Didn't they say that they had already signed a deal with someone? Do we know who with? Anyway, I did hear through the grapevine that weeks ago, Chris' family hired a team of lawyers to get him out of his deal. But if they couldn't, he's at the whim of 19E.

Amanda said the same thing. That gives me the impression that they are going to pass.

I agree with dulce, Elliott needs a good entertainment lawyer- like yesterday. And he also needs a good manager, to look out for his interest. Maybe make sure, if it's at all possible, that if he does have to stay with 19, it's not for long- I don't think they'll do him justice.

"If 19 wants him does he HAVE to sign with them???? [/QUOTE]
Yes...but...I get the distinct impression from AP's posts that she (and therefore Elliott) knows he will be "free" of 19E in 3 months. [/QUOTE]
Amanda said the same thing. That gives me the impression that they are going to pass."

But...I don't think they are outside of the period where they can change their mind yet.

As Dulce says, STOP IT

Elliott has signed a contract that says if 19E wants him prior to when the tour ends, he has no choice. Period.

Amanda said that he would be free in August because, at the time she said it, 19E had obviously not indicated they wanted Elliott.

That doesn't mean that he hasn't been told something different right now....or will be tomorrow...or next week...or next month....or in July....or in August

And NOW, it appears he is stuck through at least September 15th because a NEW concert has been scheduled in Norfolk, VA after the Richmond concert sold out in 15 minutes. This is BAD BAD BAD for Elliott if his contract does not stipulate DATES that free him IF 19E hasn't signed him.

There is a lot more info on all this on other threads. Try to consolidate all the speculation, please, into one area. Taking a few minutes to read what's already out there would be good. The thread is named "Ella.....on the AI boards" or something like that on THIS board. I read the entire thing on the AI board before it was poofed. And, yes, we do not KNOW she is anyone of any significance. Period.

Elliott himself stated that he has been approached and that was AFTER Amanda's post about him being FREE in August. That could mean approached by 19E.

That's all we know. Period.

Those who are supporting AI by buying tickets to the concert are those who are causing Elliott the most problems. For all the talk on these boards about being really pissed off at AI, we sure have a lot of folks putting a lot of money into their pockets.

Now, sorry for the rampage. Love you all. :wub:

No, they can change their mind. But do you think, based on what you saw on the show, how they treated him then and how they are treating him now, that they are going to want him? If they didn't get it already, they are not going to get it. They aren't going to "Hang on to him" to make sure he doesn't make money for anyone else. They aren't concerned with that. They are concerned with the 4 that they think WILL make THEM money.

Besides, it makes no sense to worry about this now. Enjoy the tour, wait for whatever happens to happen.

NOOOOOOOOO!

I hope he does not sign with 19. They won't appreciate him and they won't promote him out of fear that he will outdo Taylor and Kat.

QUOTE (Lookin4Trouble @ May 22 2006, 09:40 PM)
What about Chris then? It sounds as though he is weighing out a solo career vs. signing on with Fuel. I thought 19E wanted to work with him as well. So how is it that they are making it seem as though he has a choice? Who is obligated to AI? The Top 12? And I thought that was only until the tour was finished then they were free to make their decisions. Except for the top 2.

Anyone who has ever entered or auditioned for AI is bound to them in some way. They can do whatever they want, basically, that's what the contract says. I know. They came to Hawaii and I had friends audition. Anyway, if they sign Chris, he has to take it. He has no choice. My guess though is that he will turn Fuel down, and 19E will sign Absent Element. Didn't they say that they had already signed a deal with someone? Do we know who with? Anyway, I did hear through the grapevine that weeks ago, Chris' family hired a team of lawyers to get him out of his deal. But if they couldn't, he's at the whim of 19E. [QUOTE]


Thanks for explaining. Wow! What a crazy thing. I am grateful that AI brought Elliott to us all. I just hope for the best for him.

To be honest, I don't think anyone close to Elliott should be posting tidbits of info or speculation, no matter how bad we'd like to know. Go ahead and shoot me, but I think someone is going to be a publicist's worst nightmare. :hide:

I second that sentiment.

Yep, "If they don't know me (Elliott) by now, then you'll never, never know me...

I agree with you. And, sorry if this opinion is in the wrong thread but it's sorta' the same, this is just my opinion, no rumor anything, just me. I had the feeling that Chris wanted out when he was voted off. That's just me, and I don't know exactly why I felt this way, but I did.

Elliott needs people who are in his best interest looking after him, I agree.

I think the added September show in Virginia is a mixed blessing - kind of like 19 in general. It shows that Elliott is hot, very hot! That's a great thing! Ultimately this helps with getting a better contract. He gets to perform for and thank all those who have been such a critical part of his success on this show since the first show sold out so quickly. So it delays the recording contract by a little bit. In the bigger scheme of things, I think the plusses outweight the negatives.

Supposedly, Fuel said they would be willing to buy him out of his contract - for that 5 mil number we've been hearing.

Anybody happen to have an extra 5 mil floating around that they'd like to donate to a great cause?

Go ahead and shoot me, but I think someone is going to be a publicist's worst nightmare.[I]



Actually, I agree with you. Should be keeping this stuff on the dl....

Too late. It's already on the boards and everywhere else.

I think the tour will help him gain even more fans, and recognition.

Was the other VA tour added because of Elliott?

I can't think why not - but AI probably wouldn't admit it. Richmond sold out so fast - there were obviously more ticket buyers than seats and it has to be Elliott and possibly a little Chris - he's originally from Virginia and that got a lot of press in the Richmond paper.